We welcome back to Nomad author, activist, and public theologian Brian McLaren. This time we talk with Brian about his new book Do I Stay Christian?, in which he helps us reflect on the pros and cons of holding onto a Christian identity and, more importantly, what kind of human beings we want to be.
After the interview, Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Nick Thorley talk about their own faith deconstruction and move towards a more progressive spirituality, and whether they now still identify as Christian.
Interview starts at 17m 46s
“One of the things my Christian faith has taught me is to try to be honest, and if I’m honest about Christian history, I have to say the ugliness of the ways that our faith has been used to harm people – it’s not insignificant. My Christian faith has also taught me to try to look at the boards in my own eye before I look at the splinters in the eyes of others.”
“Being obsessed about our religious identity can in some ways trap us or trick us into not facing the deeper question of our human identity – what kind of human beings do we want to be?”
“If you think of yourself as both superior and innocent, I think you become dangerous.”
“The step that many of us need to learn how to take at this moment is a step of learning how to simultaneously transcend and include. Many times we want to transcend and reject – I’ve moved beyond something, I now reject it, I hate it, I want to destroy it. But that’s where you recently were, and there are a whole lot of people who are still there.”