Poet and author Cole Arthur Riley joins us to talk about her desire for a spirituality that was more human and a more liberating expression of faith. This journey led to the emergence of Black Liturgies. From prayers and poetry to breath practices and ancestral writings, this digital project explores spirituality that embraces embodiment, lament, rage and rest. And draws deeply from both contemplation and activism.

Following the interview Tim and Anna reflect on their own evolving faith journey, and ponder what role embodiment, lament, rage and rest might play in it.

Interview starts at 13m 53s

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Cole Arthur Riley


Black Liturgies: Prayers, Poems and Meditations for Staying Human

This Here Flesh: Spirituality, Liberation and the Stories That Make Us


“I don’t want to think about a God who’s only interested in what we can do for them. That’s very scary to me.”

“Sometimes I find Christ very intimidating, but mostly I find it comforting to know that this divine incarnation was willing to toss temple tables without explaining himself, without trying to make everyone else in the temple feel better.”

“I find hope in remembering that there are people that came before us that endured a lot of the same suffering and sorrow and confusion and uncertainty, and they found a way to survive.”


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